Rules Discussion

[Manius]

Semi-Only AEG’s upgraded – I would not personally wish to see any electric powered RiF (i.e. AEG) on the field, under any guise, firing more than 380fps as an absolute limit.

IF someone really wants to use an AEG as a sniper variant AND want to make it Semi fire only, and its upto but not over 380fps, then this will have to be clearly shown (such like an external bolt physically preventing the fire selector moving)…and pretty “tamper proof”…to the Refs at the start of the event.

It’s highly likely that such a weapon will be subject to close marshal/ref checking throughout the event which may hamper your RP experience.

Scout and other RP skills – I’m going to try and get at least some of these new skills up on the Rules Forum this week. Got some deadlines at work however, and homelife isn’t exactly conducive to such work (6 week old baby in the house) but I’ll do my best.

I fully realise that currently the system is firmly geared to Combat and closely related skills that will provide “some” Role Play but not sufficient for many experienced LRP’ers. This WILL be addressed.

However, the system will always be heavily combat orientated as in the 40k universe “there is only war”…but there is plenty of scope for LRP within that and I hope to enhance this feature of the system so that Role Players don’t just feel themselves as support classes for the fighters as in so many other systems.

[slimshady]

Don't worry about Role-play too much - that develops naturally with time so its probably a better idea to make sure the rules work and you have a solid foundation to build on - then you can develop it further later on.....and sometimes the best RP is spotaneous improv ^^

Grats on the New Addition to your family

[Manius]

Thanks Slim - its very tiring have a baby again...getting too old for this.

Anyway...I have now added the Non-Combat related Open Skill list to the core rules section. Please review and any comments are welcome here on them.

They are not what I would class as extensive BUT provide a decent backbone of skills away from direct combat orientated skills that will enhance an event and the players enjoyment of it.

Also I have added the details of the Long Service Award system.

And with that..I think the rules are nearly finished, at least until after a couple of events and they're tested out fully.

[john]

Depends on 2 things, how easy is it to convert back to FA capable and if you get caught. technically anything over 377 fps if SEMI or FA is a section 5, single action comes in as an air rifle or pistol. if you get stopped and the aeg is sent off to the forensics lab and its over 377 your screwed.
You can't "fan" an AEG neither can you "fan" a bolt action, revolvers only and that would break any airsoft revolver pretty quick.
My feelings are AEG's (weather semi of FA) MAX fps allowed 350, no +- or 330 fps +- 5% (top end of 346ish)
dedicated sniper bolt actions 450 fps with the minimum engagement distance of 20M

[aitch]

Have to agree with John here. Stick to the 330/350 model as he says. Plus we have to bear in mind that depending on game sites being used, we'd have to conform to their FPS limits to fit in with their insurance.

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[Manius]

FPS limits – I’ll agreed to an absolute limit for AEG’s of 370fps dependant on local site limits but we’ll negotiate this as it depends on site lay out as well (wouldn’t want anything much above 330fps on an urban site for example).

In short, officially the AEG upper limit is 370fps but this is variable and will be announced as part of any event pack.

[john]

Are we sorting out our own PLI?

[Manius]

PLI?

[aitch]

Public Liability Insurance.
Not sure how this will work. I guess I'd kind of assumed that as long as we played on a registered airsoft site we'd be able to piggyback on to their insurance policy. If we ever used a non airsoft site we'd have to start looking at that. Not sure whether the LRP Allaince policy that Chris Tully set up would cover airsoft though.

H/Stamper

[Manius]

As far as I’m aware, if we remain within the site stipulated FPS limits we’ll be covered by there insurance as we’re paying towards it in the hire.

So, early events will be fine.

I will be looking into independent insurance if we use other sites, I have contacts in that aspect as I’m sure plenty of you guys do also.